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martin gee

Ninja

Joined: 15 Jul 2004

Posts: 851

Location: the merc

Posted:
Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:15 am

Dave Dombrowski wrote::

Why do we not see more stuff like this? What is keeping us from doing it?

where should i begin?
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chrisolds

Maestro

Joined: 13 Jun 2004

Posts: 383

Location: Orlando Sentinel

Posted:
Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:31 pm

There's no doubt that the page is top-notch. I like Cleveland's past take on a related topic (50th anniversary of Playboy) a bit better. If you don't remember that one, it can be seen here: http://www.newspagedesigner.com/portfolios/portfolio1.php?pageNum_rsUserPages=4&totalRows_rsUserPages=45&UserID=92
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Cheryl

Tiki Lounger

Joined: 17 Mar 2005

Posts: 5

Location: Washington

Posted:
Wed May 04, 2005 5:36 pm

I read a great article a few years ago in some journalism magazine about how nobody runs good, edgy illustrations anymore because editors are too afraid to offend. There was an example of a piece done for a story in a national magazine about AOL and porn. The original illustration was a drawing of a penis popping up like a jack-in-the-box. The box had the AOL logo on it. The eds didn't go for it, and ran instead a woman's pubic hair with the AOL logo in it. Sheesh! Why is it that women are equated with sex and men aren't? Don't answer that--I know it's like asking why there isn't peace in the mid-east

Janet Matiisen

Juke Box Hero

Joined: 27 Apr 2005

Posts: 31

Location: Calgary Herald

Posted:
Tue May 10, 2005 1:50 pm

Robb Montgomery wrote::

But, let's play devil's advocate for a minute.
How would you illustrate this story with a male motif?

My bet - is you probably never would - at least not in the U.S.

U.S editors have been known to tolerate frontal photos and art of naked females - but have you ever seen one approve a section front that had a penis on it?

That's a line they won't cross. Why is that?

Well, there's this SND Gold and SJR winner example from Portugal:

http://www.newsdesigner.com/gallery/archives/000515.php

All I know is that neither would ever see the light of day on our conservative pages. Both are brilliant.

Ann Marie Miani

Visual Guru

Joined: 10 May 2005

Posts: 67

Location: Athens, Ga.

Posted:
Tue May 10, 2005 6:45 pm

I think this page was brilliant. I wish I could get away with something like this, even though I live is a farily liberal part of Georgia I think we would have had a ton of angry e-mails.

mattquintanilla

Visual Guru

Joined: 22 Jul 2004

Posts: 59

Location: ithaca ny

Posted:
Wed May 11, 2005 10:06 am

We did a story for my college paper before I came here about the Penis Soliloquies - the comedy club's take on the Vagina Monolouges. They used a huge reproduction of Michelangelo's David and some sort of highlight on his, erm, highlight. But then again, we're a college paper.

martin gee

Ninja

Joined: 15 Jul 2004

Posts: 851

Location: the merc

Posted:
Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:03 pm

hmmmm...

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Ernie Smith

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Joined: 03 Jul 2004

Posts: 726

Location: Linked in Norfolk, Va.

Posted:
Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:20 pm

That's pretty blatant. It rips it off just enough to be obvious.
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chris rukan

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Joined: 26 Mar 2004

Posts: 196

Location: The Palm Beach Post

Posted:
Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:08 pm

Ernie Smith wrote::

That's pretty blatant. It rips it off just enough to be obvious.

Perhaps so, but before we start calling the Dallas page a rip-off, let's remember that the Cleveland page -- beautifully executed as it was -- was hardly the first ever use of the "type in the shape of something else" approach.

Sure, the Dallas page is a bit derivative ... but the approach is dead-on perfect for the story.

My $0.02.
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chrisolds

Maestro

Joined: 13 Jun 2004

Posts: 383

Location: Orlando Sentinel

Posted:
Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:32 pm

[quote="chris rukan"]

Ernie Smith wrote::

Sure, the Dallas page is a bit derivative ... but the approach is dead-on perfect for the story.

My $0.02.

I concur.
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