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kidvibe

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Tue Dec 28, 2004 2:41 pm

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Let's debate:
When it comes to defining moments and newsroom debates - the use of photos of dead people in tragedies are a dividing line.


My contention:
The leaders unflichingly will present a vast, unimaginable catastrophe in stark photo reality.

And the wannabees? With photos that deny the reality of the scene.

My question: Which is the greater insult?

Do you run the photos that document the horror in a respectful yet tragically personal way - or sanitize your frontpage to pass 'The Breakfast test'? (Or is it - The 'Publisher' test at your paper?)

Certainly not a question of gruesomeness or blood (These photos are bloodless.) it's a question of dignity, integrity and truth-telling.

Where did you come down and why?
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Lou Spirito

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Tue Dec 28, 2004 5:33 pm

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I can't really comment about how things were handled here at The Post as I was not on the pitch. However, I'm not a fan of 'The Breakfast Test'. I've always felt that omission is simply a way of obscuring truth -- whether intentional or unintentional.

I recall an image on the cover of Time shortly after the Tiananmen Square carnage in 1989. The image was that of a student, face down in the street with a mixture of blood and cerebral fluid pouring from a gapping wound to his head. It was the most graphic image I'd seen to date -- on the cover of Time no less. Was it dignified -- not really. But it was truth, brutally so, and it was entirely appropriate.

I suppose it is a matter of context, relevance and jugdement.
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Josh Awtry

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Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:28 pm

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The Salt Lake Tribune, like a lot of other papers, has a not-quite-written-down code against running death in the paper. After a long discussion yesterday, I won one and was able to run -- even if it was very muted -- an image with bodies in it. (We were in the company of the KC Star and a few others, I noticed today.) The photo was of a woman crying over a mass grave. If you looked carefully, you could see feet and a face or two in the background.

My argument: There's death, and then there's gore. Is it worse to see a living, screaming person with a missing limb and blood gushing out, or a foot of someone you know is dead? To zero in specifically, this is a story about the immense amount of human death... not to show it seems dodgy at best.

I didn't get the guideline removed from our institutional memory, but I'm happy that we showed we could bend our internal rules when journalism dictates.
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:45 pm

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This is always a difficult question.

I was against using pictures of people jumping from buildings on 9/11. I'm still haunted by the ones I saw, and I wish I had never seen them. That desperation ... it crossed the line for me.

However, showing bodies is sometimes necessary to inform people and help people understand a news event. In this case, there is so much devastation so far away. I think newspapers should use the photos that bring the story home.

The photo the New York Times ran nails it: The death and the anguish are powerfully portrayed.

The images don't go well with corn flakes, but they are important, and it's our job to show people what happened and what is happening as more bodies are found and the number keeps on climbing.
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:03 pm

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We don't ban the publication of these kinds of photos at the Sentinel (we've run several 1A pictures with dead bodies in them as this story has unfolded), but we do discuss them. The hardest conversations are always about showing faces of death in stories that are closer to home - both geographically and emotionally. It's times like these when you really hope you know who your readers are.

I don't think anyone's necessarily copping out by not running the more graphic pictures. There was certainly a wide selection of images that showed the extent of the devastation, and not every community has the same appetite for them as New York and L.A.
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:35 pm

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On the first day, I ran a nice shot of a woman bending over the bodies of her two dead children. I ran it small and downpage. My ME said it was well played, but I heard at least one complaint the next day from a reader because I used dead bodies at all.

On the second day, I ran a shot of a mess, a debris-strewn city shot, with a grieving woman on the jump -- I wanted to use another shot with a dead child, because it was the best shot I found that day, but I was shot down this time.

I usually keep dead people out of the paper, certainly off of 1A, but sometimes, I think they're justified to convey the impact of the story.
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:04 pm

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it's reality. it happened. it's news. show it. isn't it our job?

i really hate how papers / media has to sanitize everything. i detest the "breakfast test." who are we trying to protect? and why? current numbers say 60,000 people died and rising. how can you not show the devastation on all levels? to say this is a massive / global historic event is an understatement.

the photos from the ny times really moved me. almost to tears. so emotional and overwhelming. so powerful... props to the photojournalists there.

http://nytimes.com/packages/html/international/20041227_QUAKE_FEATURE/index_INDIA.html

this makes the girl with the deer leg look trivial.
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:28 pm

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You're on to something here by linking to the multimedia component.

One of the differences between the Web and the printed page is user control - online, people can decide whether they want to see more for themselves. Several papers handled Fallujah, Abu Grahib and the beheading stories this way - making the more explicit images available online. The tsunami images lack that level of depravity, but the need to truthfully show the scene makes an interesting case for more synergy between our printed and online products.
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Wed Dec 29, 2004 11:08 am

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Newspapers should always be thinking about designing for readers and working hard to provide readers with the true story. While I am sympathetic and understand that not every reader wants to see dead bodies while reading over breakfast, I also firmly believe that stories like this require photos that not everyone wants to see. These photos represent what has happened and no amount of hiding and editing can change that.

Of course, always do it as humanely as possible, but the one thing a newspaper can't do is toss aside a photo JUST because it shows a dead body. Show the photo for what it is and let the rest fall into place.

When you are faced with a tragedy of unprecedented proportions, one where upwards of 100,000 people are dead, there is just no way to tell the story accurately without the very photos that some readers are against. I like to believe that the average reader is smart and savvy enough to understand that this kind of story is one that you can't design around.

And like I felt when I was designing pages shortly after 9/11, what I see turns my stomach. It's hard to see all of this, but that's why we're here. Ultimately, readers expect us to tell them the truth. There's no sugar coating this story.
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Wed Dec 29, 2004 3:21 pm

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My attempts to put a photo of the dead on page 1 was shot down. The editors say it is too graphic for our small town readers.
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